wogma rating: Watch if you have nothing better to do (?)
Delivers what it promises in the trailers. Lots of "dialogue", earthy style and of course bullets. Unfortunately, it also means repetitive, predictable, and tiring.Read more
After Paan Singh Tomar, I doubt there is going to be a time when I'll not look forward to a Tigmanshu Dhulia film. But I must say I am being pushed a little, with lyrics like "main tamancha, tu meri goli" (I'm a gun, you are my bullet) and "don't touch my body, o more saiyya; tera jala doongi gadda aur takya" (I'll set your mattress and pillow on fire!).
That besides, the trailer doesn't look too inspiring. It comes across as your regular Hindi film, smart-alec goon film. In fact, it comes across as a cheaper version. The dialogue seems over-written in the two minute trailer itself. The slick treatment you saw in the director's earlier films is certainly missing.
Unfortunately, it doesn't look like the film is going to make any demands from the actors in terms of perforamances. They all seem to be required to exactly what they've done earlier. In fact, Mahie Gill comes across as even more redundant in this film and Jimmy Sheirgill too seems to be required to dumb it down. That leaves Saif Ali Khan and Sonakshi Sinha. You'd expect Tigmanshu Dhulia to make better use of their talents, but I have little hope.
Paradoxically, it is the same name that still makes you look forward to what he can do with typical or worse masala.
Bollyspice - "2/5"
Bollywood Hungama - "3/5"
glamsham - "3.5/5"
IBN Live, IANS - "2.5/5"
Milliblog - "this one is surprisingly decent progress for Sajid-Wajid!"
Music Aloud - "6/10"
- meeta, a part of the audience
It is a Tigmanshu Dhulia masala film. So, it is as Tigmanshu Dhulia as other Tigmanshu Dhulia films. And it is as masala as other masala films. Which means you don't get anything new and a hotchpotch of a combination.
You have an earthy, stylish element to the film which tries to keep the film outside the urban, polished looks associated with Saif Ali Khan (yes, yes except Omkara, of course). And this style starts out with a bang, at the opening credits itself. Some of the most slickly done work while keeping it rugged too.
The film itself, begins well after the opening too. Except for an abrupt and badly edited opening sequence, the film sets a nice tone of friendship between Raja (Saif Ali Khan) and Rudra (Jimmy Sheirgill). The camaraderie is cute and yet, has a rugged kind of strength about it. But, unfortunately, the writing doesn't hold as the movie progresses. It is just one big enemy after the other, gun fights and more fights, till you are immune to it all.
There are breaks in the form of one-liners - some witty, some not so much - all of them delivered as if it were to become the most iconic dialogue of the decade. Yes, it does translate either to whistles or eye-rolls, depending on your "filmy" appetite.
The other breaks come in the form of songs that you wish didn't exist, let alone show up randomly in the film and be just plain awful. Mahie Gill in "Don't touch my body..." made me so uncomfortable; didn't help that I was sitting between two men who were strangers. It has as much to do with her costume, her moves, the lyrics, the men letching at her on screen as it is with the setting - a number like that set in a wedding as entertainment for the groom and his friends and family; out in the open; in broad daylight! It just felt wrong.
Once you are past that though, there isn't much offensive in terms of vulgarity. There are religious remarks and some social ones too. The social comments take guise under patriotism and Robin-Hood-ism, but come across as sides. They show up rather abruptly.
The editing too is rather abrupt especially in some of the action sequences. Many, in fact come across as rather amateur execution. It is a shame since the action choreography is pretty cool, even if in spots.
The only thing going for the film then is the performances or rather the screen presence of the main players. Except for Raja and Rudra, none of the other characters have the writing going for them. The two other lead actors then, Sonakshi Sinha and Vidyut Jamwal come too late in the film and/or have little to do to really deserve a fair comment on performances.
Saif Ali Khan and Jimmy Sheirgill on the other hand make the most of the rustic roles they are given and it is a pleasure to see them in this setting. Though, thinking of them as simple, men who want to earn an honest living after the first action sequence is hard to digest. But, anyway, it is irrelevant to what happens in the rest of the film.
Ultimately, though, there are only so many revenge films one can watch which offer no variety at all. A couple of smart lines here and there don't cut the deal. Especially when almost everything else is sub-par.
- meeta, a part of the audience
Thumbs up, by Taran Adarsh, Bollywood Hungama : ...On the whole, BULLETT RAJA is Tigmanshu Dhulia's most 'commercial', mass appealing film thus far... full review
Thumbs up, by Prathamesh Jadhav, Bollywood Life : ...Tigmanshu Dhulia’s Bullett Raja succeeds at hitting the bull’s eye with a with, quirky and engaging shot of entertainment. Go, pull the trigger this weekend! ... full review
Thumbs up, by Inspector VIjay, Desi Martini : ...Full paisa vasool entertainer! ... full review
Thumbs up, by Subhash K. Jha, NDTV : ...It takes a politically savvy storyteller of Dhulia's skills to convert the lowest ebb of our politics into an occasion of high drama.... full review
Thumbs up, by K N Gupta, SmasHits.com : ...Overall, the movie is very watchable, with just the caution about lots of violence, gun and bullet shots.... full review
Thumbs up, by Srijana Mitra Das, Times of India : ...Where the film misses a bulls-eye is an excess 20 minutes, music that, despite Tamanche Pe Disco, remains average and direction that sometimes - don't miss the guy flagellating himself as Saif makes a momentous decision - wavers... full review
Thumbs up, by Aparna Mudi, Zee News : ...The movie is a must watch for anyone who loves hard core action. It is not as intense as Dhulia’s previous ventures were, but ‘Bullett Raja’ will surely not let you down. ... full review
So-So, by Somesh Sinha, Desi Martini : ...Watch the *official trailer* again and again. ... full review
So-So, by Sarita Tanwar, DNA : ...Watch it if you’re a fan of some edgy dialogues. As for the rest of it, you’ll want to rain bullets on this Raja.... full review
So-So, by FPJ Bureau, Free Press Journal : ...The action assigned to Saif and Jimmy is badly orchestrated while the ones where Vidyut Jamwal features, looks solid and believable... full review
So-So, by Ravi Kandala, fullhyd.com : ...The intricately scripted political climate of Uttar Pradesh adds another point to the rating, taking it to 4. Tigmanshu Dhulia writes several wonderful applause-worthy dialogues,... full review
So-So, by Martin D'Souza, Glamsham.com : ... Talent needs to be respected and properly compensated, only then will you get quality. As for me, I don't want to feel like I am watching a television serial when I walk in to a Tigmanshu Dhulia film. ... full review
So-So, by Sweta Kaushal, Hindustan Times : ...As a mass entertainer, Bullett Raja has abundant melodrama but it is not over-the-top like Rowdy Rathore or even Dabangg. - See more at: http://www.hindustantimes.com/entertainment/bollywood/movie-review-watch-bullett-raja-for-the-dialogues/article1-1157085.aspx#sthash.jVPXI6vA.dpuf... full review
So-So, by Rajeev Masand, IBN Live : ...Saif Ali Khan is very good as the wise-ass, audacious Raja, going full-throttle in the comic interludes,... full review
So-So, by Jaidev Hemmady, Movie Talkies : ...Tigmanshu Dhulia’s contribution to ‘massy masala’ is sure to impress you. ... full review
So-So, by Divya Solgama, MoviezADDA : ...Well there are some good action scenes followed by few entertaining moments, but the lack of proper screenplay fails to create the much required momentum in the film... full review
So-So, by Karan Anshuman, Mumbai Mirror : ...Here's hoping Tigmanshu Dhulia ditches this spurious chase and returns to form with his brand of movies - forged from truth and insight; straight from the heart - that we've come to love. ... full review
So-So, by Janhavi Samant, Star Blockbuster : ...An average film. Bullett Raja is good time-pass. But only that. ... full review
So-So, by Rummana Ahmed, yahoo! India : ...‘Bullett Raja’ is not completely unwatchable but we have come to expect a certain class from Tigmanshu Dhulia and it is sad to see him sacrifice that in a bid to make a commercially viable film.... full review
Thumbs down, by Bobby Sing, Bobby Talks Cinema.com : ... BULLETT RAJA - With only a few engaging moments in the first half, this is the weakest film from the director unexpectedly.... full review
Thumbs down, by Githa Vanan, Bolly Spice : ...So take a deep breath, forget the past and you will walk away from the film thinking ‘time-pass’. Otherwise, you will be severely disappointed with there being nothing new at all. Just a bunch of performers, trying to make a kid’s toy gun look real... full review
Thumbs down, by Deepa Gahlot, cinemaah : ...Worse films have done well, so that is hardly the point, but give Tigmanshu Dhulia a star and a budget is this is the best he can do? The man who made Paan Singh Tomar reduced to Rowdy-ness?... full review
Thumbs down, Daily Bhaskar : ... Bullett Raja is a disappointing film with old masala recipe ... full review
Thumbs down, by mohit Patil, Desi Martini : ...Fun in parts, mostly stagnant and desultorily conceived. And no, deliberately holding back information and fooling the viewer ain’t cool. ... full review
Thumbs down, by Smita, Desi Martini : ...Too much pointless violence with a very weak story to support the shoot fest. Avoidable... full review
Thumbs down, by aneela zeb babar, Desi Martini : ...Thai Thai Phiss Fizzle Out ... full review
Thumbs down, by Deepa Deosthalee, Film Impressions : ...What’s to be expected then from people who have no pride or respect for their chosen line of work but rubbish like Bullett Raja?... full review
Thumbs down, by Devesh Sharma, Filmfare : ...Tigmanshu shouldn’t try to copy Prabhudeva but make straight-from-the-heart films that he’s famous for. We missed the comic punches and the black humour of his earlier efforts... full review
Thumbs down, by Saurabh Dwivedi, india today : ...Watch the movie if you want to see action, flying bulletts and loud dialogues. It's a complete masala film that has nothing new to offer ... full review
Thumbs down, by Shalini Langer, indian express : ...It's sad that he makes a mockery of all that he knows better here.... full review
Thumbs down, by Mohar Basu, koimoi : ...Bullett Raja with its grave minuses and fewer plusses is an underwhelming film much to my disbelief.... full review
Thumbs down, by Shubha Shetty-Saha, MiD DAY : ...This could easily be Sonakshi’s worst role till date. Jimmy Shergill has already proved his mettle as an actor and he gives a decent enough performance in whatever is expected of his characte... full review
Thumbs down, by Mansha Rastogi, Now Running.com : ...Bullett Raja had the scope to bring about some content in the current crop of massy entertainers and could cater to the intelligentsia but Tigmanshu Dhulia's inept attempt ruins all such chances. Quite a downer!... full review
Thumbs down, by Paloma Sharma, Rediff : ...While no two people can like the same kind of films or even agree on the definition of a good film, it is difficult to judge if even hardcore Saif Ali Khan fans should go for this one.... full review
Thumbs down, by Sonia Chopra, Sify Movies : ...Watch if a dumbed-down film about senseless revenge and violence fills your heart. Otherwise, strictly avoid... full review
Thumbs down, by Sudhish Kamath, The Hindu : ...Bullett Raja is so boring it could put you to sleep... but then the damn noise wouldn't let you. ... full review
Vittal219: You must watch Bullet Raja for @VidyutJammwal , Top acting!
vikram_prince20: Bullet raja (y)
vatsalvirus: Bullet Raja :-)
UtkarshRatnakar: Zabardast movie Bullett Raja pura LUCKNOW kai darshan kara diya Saif Ali Khan Vidyut Jammwal acting is awesome (Y) :-)
uniquerishta: "Bullet Raja is full time pass movie , worth for your money , Mr Tigmanshu Dhulia has given…" — shubhangi http://www.uniquerishta.com/entertain/bullet-raja-saif-sonkshi/2613/
trivedi333: superb movie bullet raja saif n jimmy rocksss
thIsIsISM: Bullet raja..... why people waste money in producing such kind of films. ..
TheVastikMishra: Bullet Raja Awesome
talhasiddiqui57: Today I saw bullet raja superb movie
swapniltayadex: bullett raja = chutiya movie
SRKswarrior1: Last 20 minutes of Bullet Raja #PaisaVasool
snaidu666: loved bullet raja,,,i would like to call it a sphaghetti indian
skuhar2: whating bullet raja good movie
SillySindhi: Saw @Bullett_Raja. It's a clean entertainer recommended for the entire family. And the dialogues are ekdum faadu!
shivamdont: Bhraman.. bhuka tooo tooo sudama.. Bhraman bhadka tooo ... Raavan.. osm moviee BULLET RAJA .... must watch...!!!!!
sairamufc: First Audit yesterday in Akola. Toyota showroom. Finished it, then watched Bullett Raja. Nice movie.
SaifUpdates: I just saw Bullett Raja. Amazing. Saif Ali Khan at his best. This is the first time he did any Masala film and... https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=732873443407422&id=214453328582772
sagarsahil8: Bullett raja rocks. Awesome movie.
sadiyagandhi: Watched bullet raja yesterday nite,saif,jimmy n vidyut were outstanding..raja misra another fab character 4m tigmanshu team.u all rock!
sadiam786: Lovedddddd bullet raja!!!
RohitSehgal99: Bullet raja rock's
Rashmi92410478: Bullet raja ###owsm movie##
pankajpassion: A revenge to revenge story interesting Movie Bullet Raja
obhosale63: Saw a good film after a loooong time.... Bullet raja!
NishantMaher: Bullett Raja. A nice watch. Lacks the @dirtigmanshu effect though.
nishanthini_p: 5/5 stars for bullet Raja
nehra27: with bullet raja, he is back in action !! http://www.facebook.com/nehra27/posts/736830359679187
nainasingh31: ¥¥ BULLET RAJA A A A A,, awsm dialogs. .
mishraLPU: "BRAHMAN badhkka toh RAVAN " enjoying BULLET RAJA .....awusum movie :)
manojnair505: Bullet Raja a real royal ride, thanks Mr.Tigmanshu ,great
lazzzyyy_girl: in loooveeee with bullet raja ..............!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
karthik_jammy: Jimmy Sheirgill Rocks!!! :P RT @IamRissh: Bullet Raja is such an amazing movie. -_-
KarismaZulkifli: bullet raja funny hahaha
jdadrwal: Nice movie by saif ali khan bullet raja
Jaisngh265Kumar: Bullet raja boom movie yaae .......very very thanks tigmanshu dhuliya.....
itsraviranjan: Bullet Raja. Fucking awesome.... Tigmashu Dhulia has done it again...... Way to go....:)
idrrajdeep: Spectacular action,crackling dialogues & intense Saif made Bullett Raja an enjoyable watch.Wish the script was more coherent.
IamRissh: Bullet Raja is such an amazing movie. -_-
iamnishantgoel: Bullett_Raja is awesone movie. Saif with his rocking performance.. Don't miss.... #bullettraja
iAdityachauhan: Watched Bullet Raja today!! Nice movie to watch, nthin like waste of time. Few things i liked in movie:- ~Gimmy... https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=672639596100526&id=100000634754641
HornOKTata: Not a fan of political dramas or action but quite liked Bullett Raja. Has a bit of everything, including humour. Fast paced too.
FeverMovies: Sanjay Khanduri: Tigmanshu’s BULLETT RAJA is a perfect mix of entertainment and grunge – News http://twitter.com/FeverMovies/status/406677586539188224/photo/1
devanshboy123: Yesterday saw bullet Raja Movie superb..!! . . Jimmy Shergil is fantastic .. . . Review : 4/5 # d£[email protected]ñ$h
ddcajay: I Like Movie Bullet Raja
ChickenBiryanii: Bullet Raja is 3.5 out of 5
ChaudharyImran2: Bullet Raja seeming to be a promising movie.
Bollywoodoholic: Bullet Raja has content! not a great movie but definitely a good one time watch!
bhargavdave21: Humka pasand aayi #BulletRaja @Bullett_Raja
BeingHerPikachu: In between Exams we always find time to watch a movie. Watched Bullet Raja today. Was a good movie
babwire87: Bullet raja good movie at least watch it for the fresh script and amazing dialogues and amazing timing :)
babumoshoy: 'Bullett Raja' is a milestone film with best pairing ever that sees the coming together of Bollywood's largest foreheads.
azeem2112: Loved bullet raja, tigmanshu doesn't disappoint commercial entertainer
AviRaina: Watched Bullet Raja last night. Pretty entertaining. Next week's Rajkumar and then end the year with Dhoom.
ashishjha_aj: Asm movie Bullet Raja
anupam_80: Bhai kisi aur ko bhi Bullet Raja pasand aayee kya? or I am alone.
Amankum71266121: Bullet raja movie nice hai
9179Rohit: Supppperrrrrrbbbbbb #bullet raja.
123SUMITGO: Bullet Raja- entrainment dhamal..
__SHANatic__: Ok @Bullett_Raja is awesome! Gosh Saif,Jimmy and Vidyut were absolutely outstanding. BRILLIANT ACTING by all of them! 4/5 for Bullett Raja
WonderPhool: Bullet raja is not great, but good one time watch..screw u critics , every movie can't be pan singh tomar.
vineet_chugh: Saif Jimmy camaraderie and few good dialogues make Bullet Raja a time pass one time watch. It's Dhulia's weakest film so far though.
saket22: Watched Bullet Raja... 1time watch...
rathod_hiren: Bullet Raja is an ok ok movie... Had great expectations out of it as it was a Tigmanshu Dhulia Movie.
rahulgrover88: Bullet Raja one time watch . 2.5 stars from movie .
nileshdujari: #bullet raja could have been better
nazmitec14: Bullet raja is an average movie.. Could have been better... 3.5 star
mybuddybits: If you have nothing much to do this weekend, pull the trigger and go for #BullettRaja. It's a one time watch! http://buddybits.com/movie-review-bullett-raja/
IN_Deals: Bullet Raja not very exciting, but worth a watch #BullettRaja http://t.co/dpPztyLSSs
imemainsarvesh: Bullet Raja average movie.......but dialogues are awesome......
Yunus_Irshad: BULLETT RAJA (U/A) HINDI ------------ my Rating : ★★ AVOID IT What’s Good: Jimmy Shergill.And Tigmanshu... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNRZdl3xr_M
Yepicurious: So, Bullet Raja was pretty bad.
vijaykhannato: bullet raja to ab flop ki taraf jaa rhi hai 7 on 1st day
vasisht11: What the fuck Tigmanshu ?!..Did your gaand make Bullet Raja ?? Not expected from a director like you !!..
vahivarun: Avoid Bullet Raja.
utkarsh1087: #Bullet raja...most crap movie of the year. Tigmanshu dhulia goes totaly wrong dis time. Such good actors r wasted in lack of story.
TheFrandshipMan: Bullet Raja will only burn holes in your pockets.
swechhaprakash: Saw bullet raja today and concluded that being from Lucknow is quite embarrassing
suyogyadav: Dhuliya disappointed ...its nt ur cls...u made it fr mass///##bullet raja
sudeepsengupta: Will you watch Bullet Raja again #TheAnswerWillAlwaysBeNo
SteveUnknown: No, no, no, no, no!!!! 'Bullett Raja'?!! Oh my life, why Saif, why?!!!!! What the hell did I just watch?! Saif deserves better & so do we!!!
SKSangal: Bullet Raja.... Total bakwaas....
skhatadia: Bullet Raja!!! One of the worst movie I have seen till date
sheikh_chilly: Bullet raja is crappy 70s cinema , saif a complete misfit , sonakshi is so huge she cannot fit, tigmanshu should stick to his original style
sanjaynanhi: Bullet Raja ko Dainik Jagran ne 4 star diye hain. Lagta hai Tigmanshu ki tarah ye bhi pagla gaya hai.
roshankalappa: Bullet raja is bakwas raja
romeo_roll: Bullet Raja is one of those sick movies which s worth nt wasting tym nd money. Thr were nly bullet nd It didn't seem saif as raja for sure!
nitin_bambai: Bullett raja aaye aur phir jo garmi bachi thi woh bhi chali gayi, boley toh kuch aur he they...people giving 4*s for wat?
nandiiniii: Bullet Raja -- What utter crap! #fail
Muddassarjawed: Don't watch Bullet Raja please.
mann_ka_radio: Bullet Raja.... Tigmanshu Dhulia's this bullet was not upto the mark. 2.5 stars from my side.
MananSehgal: Bullett Raja is highly disappointing movie.. Ye kya kiya Dhuliya saab?
MainKhuda: " @romeomustdiee : Bullet Raja ~~ Tigmanshu Dhulia's worst ever" Saif has a thing to get worst out of most directors
kingptd: Bullet Raja Review in marathi news paper.. Purani bottle me...purani Daru...:D
kaalicharan: Bullett Raja ― Agent Vinod trades the tuxedo for tikka, exotic Europe for UP but it's the same old story.
jpkshh: HORRIBLE MOVIE...BULLET RAJA...BORED THE AUDIENCES TO DEATH...
JholPunter: Bullet Raja dekhne ke baad ehsas hua ki Agent Vinod dekh kar logon ka kya haal hua hoga #Bakwas
iamkelkar: Bullet Raja 2 stars from side #BulletRaja
hitesh255: BuLLeT Raja.. FuLtu entertaining..
GrumbleBee_: Bullet Raja was quite disappointing.
grasshopperseve: Bullet Raja: Nothing so RAJA about it. http://pkverdicts.blogspot.com/2013/11/bullet-raja-nothing-so-raja-about-it_29.html
graffy_vibhav: Bullet raja....shitty movie :/
gomtesh_upadhye: bullet raja. we left theatre like a bullet. could not sit for even 45 mins. Tigmanshu wtf.
geetababes: Very happy bullet raja is a flop
FebWin: I would take a bullet for you, but I wouldn't take Bullett Raja for you.
Durgeshkoshish: Bullet Raja 2*
CrazyCoolSachin: Bullett raja was not good... Nt much entertaining as xpected.... Only watch it for saif n sonakshi...
chirag_79253: #Bullet Raja Not a good movie
chandansahoo: Bullet Raja is the worst movie I have seen in recent times. Pls do not watch. Zero star
bisprad: Bullett Raja beats Ram Leela to the most HORRIBLE movie of 2013. The only charitable thing about it was Vidyut Jamwal's cameo
AnjunaRulz: iRate: Bullet Raja 1.5/5
amol_jadhav199: Third class movie #bullet raja
Alllahdin: Kya chutiyapa tha ye Bullet Raja.
abmathur: Saw bullet raja yesterday....erratic up traditions n political drama shown....didnt lyk d movie though...
Want to Watch, by Anuj
Want to Watch, by Sam Torres : I have not seen it yet
Want to Watch, by TimELiebe : Saif Ali Khan & Jimmy Sheirgill, song&dances&gunplay? Yes, Please! :)
Yay! Thumbs Up, by Anup : U Cant excape this........
Yay! Thumbs Up, by Kedar Lasane : Interesting Story.Nice Acting by Sonakshi
Yay! Thumbs Up, by Veerappan
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i really get excited when critically acclaimed directers which normally make non commercial movies tries commercial movies.....
I was really excited for ramleela,,,,but it doesnt came as fine as black or guzarish.....
M exited for this too,,,,,lets see what happen.....
So now even Tigmanshu has finally recognized the power of the masses and mass entertainers rather than catering to high end multiplex pseudo classes who consider the PST's and the GOW's to be "classics"! Hope Bullet Raja can be more of a "Dabangg" than an "Omkara".
@Meeta:My Dhoom 3 preview
Pardon me for my mediocre writing skill but i'd like you to read through it anyway :P
@Anup That is true.
@Anuj Could you please post only comments related to Bullett Raja on this page? Thank you.
Saif's best chance to redeem himself post multiple duds like Kurbaan,Aarakshan & Race-2 over the last 4 years with a partial hit Cocktail being the only saving grace. Probably the only among A lister's yet to have a 100 cr movie to his name!
@anuj - ahm ahm - Race 2 - 102 crores
Now thats the correct way to make a good masala movie,,,,close to real action sequence,,,,perfect bal between humour and seriousness,,,,no product endorsement(this has become a compliment now),,not much songs in the movie,,less then 2 and a half hour running time,,,,nice acting by lead actors(jimmy specially has been awesome),,some political twist(signature moves of tigmansu),,litl shocking climax etc.....
The only two bad things for me in the movie are the song ’satake maar’(a really bad song),,,,and an emotional sequence which could have been better with tears but saif just shouted without any tears......
Definatly this is a movie which will fullfill the requerment of both masala audience and critics to some extent....
@Meetu - sadly, the Multiplex screen in Syracuse that normally shows Indian movies has given itself over to holiday stuff like BLACK NATIVITY and BALLET ROUSSE PRESENTS THE NUTCRACKER SUITE, and probably will until the end of December.
Too bad, as this sounds like the kind of movie we'd like to see on a big screen - I know it's not your cup of chai, but it's sure the kind of thing this group of Americans would enjoy! :)
@Anup:102 cr is the producer figure. Actual distributor figure is around 94 cr. Now before you give me the Krrish 3 figures,yes distributor figures for Krrish 3 are around 190-200 cr all versions included. Its the ridiculous trade tracking system in Bollywood we have that enables parties with vested interests to fudge or downgrade numbers without being accountable. High time b-town gets its own version of boxofficemojo.
@Anup : "Definatly this is a movie which will fullfill the requerment of both masala audience and critics to some extent...."~doesn't seem like going by the below average box office response. For me Dabangg,Singham & Agneepath are still the best masala films in recent times in terms of content and audience taste(barring some ott action sequences). Of course the "ideal" definition of a masala movie would include films like Sarfarosh & Khakee but going by audience response they seem more inclined towards the Dabangg brand of masala than the Khakee brand of masala entertainers. Of course the likes of Zanjeer,Deewar and Trishul are on a different level altogether which i do not see any film-maker in present day bollywood being able to match up to(although i do have high hopes from Karan Malhotra after watching the modern day Agneepath provided he brings in a little more subtlety and tones it down a bit).
Anuj - its really hard to talk to u,,,as i said earlier ur comments are always here and there,,,u by urself dont know what u want to express,,u r just here for opposing other,,,,first u said u r hoping that bullet raja become more of dabangg not omkara and now u say real masala movies are khakke and sarfarosh,,,,accordinh to me omkara too fall on the same catogorie in which sarfarosh and khakkee are,,,these movies are not normal masala movies,,,they are more then that,,,in present time u cant call d-day a masala movie or will u,,,,ofcoarse sarforosh , khakkee and omkara too are alot better movie then dabang , singham or omkara.....
Plz dude clear ur mind,,,,talk one sided,,,,dont talk two sided,,,,as i said earlier the head and tail both cant be urs,,,,and if u cant be one sided then its my request plz dont reply to my comment,,,,anything else u can do i will dont mind it....
Filmakers are always experimenting , this film, needless to say is an utter failure both in writing and performances. What compelled Tigmanshu who gave us the atheletic turned dacoit enthralling film "Paan Singh Tomar" to detour and try out Rohit shetty and Prabhudeva style. I am not lambasting the entire film , its witty dialouges coated with humour was excellent but it never follows the premise. At one point of time i completely lost the track and there was no means to follow the story .
@Anup : Kindly understand the definition of a masala entertainer first before making such remarks. Sarfarosh and Khakee is as massy as a film can get. The only thing they do not possess is ott stunts and ridiculous action sequences which unfortunately have become part of mass entertainers of late. Originally commercial entertainers never had such action sequences anyway (right from the time of Bachchan). Films like Sarfarosh are the ideal definition of a quintessential "Bollywood mass commercial entertainer". I'd have described Dabangg and Singham as perfect commercial entertainers but they fell short in certain aspects imo(not in that of the audience). Omkara is a classic film noir based in the heartland of UP meant only for a very limited audience with taste for such a genre. And that's the reason why i said Bullet Raja should be in the more commercially viable "Dabangg"(with better stunts of course) category than the classic crime-gangster genre of Omkara and GOW. Dunno what you're talking about!
"ofcoarse sarforosh , khakkee and omkara too are alot better movie then dabang , singham or omkara..."~read that statement again and its evident whose in a totally confused and undecided state of mind!
Anuj - damn man,,,,i think ur english is too bad,,,,u should refer some dictionary,,so that u can understand the difference between confusion and mistake ,, ’what i have done is mistake,,,,what ur comments shows is confusion’ may be this statement of mine will help to understand the difference between mistake and confusion
anuj - and in case of masala movie,,,,for me its a different thing,,,,and for u its different,,,,for me mass entertainment is not always a masala movie,,,,correctly said by u that sarfarosh and khakee are mass entertainment but they are not masala movies,,,,sarfarosh , khakee , border , don , rang de basanti , fanaa , gadar , lagaan , etc are mass entertainer but day are made on strong concept,,,,they are not atall masala movies,,,,so kindly u understand the meaning of masala movie,,,,just because a movie liked by the major part of audience doesnt make it masala movie.....
@Anup:You're most welcome to have your own definition of a masala movie 'coz as far as i know,the term "masala entertainer" does not exist in movie folklore and is more of a media creation. Whatever little i can make out of it the term "masala entertainer" basically refers to a movie with a bit of every genre(romance,action,thrill,comedy etc) mashed into one.By that yardstick Sarfarosh/Khakee/Border etc perfectly satisfy the criteria. And yes the so-called masala movies can definitely have strong content,there's no hard & fast rule that a masala movie's gotta have a wafer thin plot.The exact definition of a "masala entertainer" is up to you to decide for yourself.
PS:Rang De Basanti is nowhere near being a "mass entertainer". It was a movie made spefically for the urban multiplex audiences and that's where it did 90% of its business. Its performance in single screens and interiors was negligible.
Anuj - that was a ’waow’ moment when i read ur defination of masala entertainment,,,,,,,,today u have given a new defination to it,,,,congrates....
@Anup:Kindly enlighten me with your esteemed knowledge of Hindi cinema and its terminologies.You see,i'm very new to Hindi films and have never visited a single screen in my lifetime to experience the frenzy of "mass entertainers" like RDB and Chak De India! I'm sure even Delhi Belly,Lunchbox and Well Done Abba would satisfy your definition of a mass entertainer :P
Anuj - havnt seen well done abba,,,,lunch box was not a mass entertainent and not a masala movie too,,,,but delhi belly was a masala entertainment and a good masala entertainment....But yes it was for target audience and liked alot by the youth,,,,so its a masala movie which is not a mass entertainment....
Anuj - and for rang de basanti it gross around 50 crores,,,,and liked by everyone,,,,doesnt matter from where it has grossed multiplex or single screen,,,,its grossing income show it has been seen and liked by many people,,,,so it is a mass entertainment
Anuj - and for rang de basanti it gross around 50 crores in 2006 which is a big thing,,,,and liked by everyone,,,,doesnt matter from where it has grossed multiplex or single screen,,,,its grossing income show it has been seen and liked by many people,,,,so it is a mass entertainment
Well, Anuj is right when he says that there is no single definition of a masala movie. It is a movie which has bits and pieces of everything (Romance, revenge,thrills, action etc) Masala Movies = Mass entertainers. Majority of the times, Masala movies can also be defined as movies that are often critically thrashed by the snobbish critics. Very very very few movies fall in the category which have excellent critical reviews as well as become Blockbusters. Movies like Sholay, QSQT, Ghayal, 3 Idiots and Dabangg.
Yes RDB did 50 cr in 2006 but 90% of its revenue came from multiplexes and A centres which form 25-30% of the total audience. It was rejected by the Single screen audiences in the B/C centers as indicated by its below par distributor share of 23 cr despite netting 50 cr. Compare that collection with real well accepted "mass entertainers" of 2006 like Dhoom-2 & Krrish in terms of collections and distributor share and you'd know the difference. Bottomline,movies like RDB,TZP,CDI,ZNMD etc cater to a very limited target audience of just multiplexes and urban centers and cannot be termed as mass entertainers (unlike 3Idiots,Ghajini,Dabangg,Agneepath,Chennai Express,Rowdy Rathore etc)
In case of films like RDB,CDI etc the collections get a boost courtesy extremely high ticket prices at high end multiplexes and hence these films have a high gross. Had RDB been lapped up by the single screen audiences too,it would have grossed more than Krrish and D2. High gross doesn't always equate to high viewership. Case in point,Love Aaj Kal grossed higher than Wanted despite Wanted having higher theatrical viewership. Mainly 'coz LAK did 70% of its business at high end metro multiplexes where ticket prices are 6-7 times higher than single screens in tier 2 and tier 3 towns!
@ Anuj & @ Anup
Bade velle ho dono ke dono !!! Lagta hai ki talwar pakda de dono ko to yahi maar kat ke faisla kar lenge
Anuj -Common man krish 3 and CE also have high price of ticket,,,thats the reason why they grossed much,,,,m just saying that the audience who watch movies in multiplex is also a part of mass,,,,so if a movie is liked by them too is a mass entertainment,,,,,and the fact that a movie is a mass entertainment doesn't have any connection with the movie being a masala movie,,,,,non masala movies also become mass entertainment and also sometimes masala movies doesnt able to become mass entertainment....
The crux is that being a ’masala movies’ and being a ’mass entertainment’ are too different things....
Anuj - And what will u say about SINGH SAHEB THE GREAT - it has a fine collection in single screen but have a really bad business in multiplex,,,it is a kind of masala movie as per ofcoarse dabbang type,,,,but was not a mass entertainment....
The question is simple if all masala movies are not mass entertainment they how can be all mass entertainment are masala movies....Thats totally wrong dude....
Adam - and m a audience who appriciate and demand those very very very few movies,,,,because those are the movie which distinguise the mass entertainment and masala movies....
There is a difference between ’all’ and ’most’ ,,,, yes most of the mass entertainment are masala movies but not all,,,,the difference not required to be big,,,,small difference is also a difference.....
As regards a loose definition of what is often referred to as a masala film, I am 100% of the same point of view as Anuj, I.e. the film has a bit of every emotion (fun, melodrama, fight, dance, music, fantasy, ...)
The films of 1970s and 1980s can be called the most closest to the masala genre as per this definition. And by the fact that they had a little bit of everything, such movies usually fared much better than a single genre film in the '70s and '80s period because every moviegoer found his/her need satisfied.
The current age, with so many media choices, sees multiplex crowd coming for a single genre film. But in the B/C centres, movies still remain the dominant if not the only media choice. And hence the reason for masala films to fare well in small centres compared to multiplexes; and the vice versa for the specialised genre.
@Veerappan ha ha ha ha... :D We love discussing movies around here. :D
Veerappan - Yaar ,, we only lookafter that readers keep on enjoying while reading this blog,,,,and ur comment show that we are successful....ha ha ha....
Fan - m agreed with that defination too,,,,but do u think in bollywood each and every mass entertainment is a masala flick,,,,doesnt the non masala movies in india become mass entertainment,,,,even if they are very few in number,,,,thats the thing what m asking to anuj....
@Anup : SSTG's collections at single screens is nowhere near being "fine". Its just done Above Average business at single screens of Punjab/Delhi belt and is a washout in the rest of the territories. As for K3,it has created circuit records in single screen dominated mass territories of Rajasthan and Bihar. And yes every "masala" film is definitely a mass entertainer and imo films like RDB,CDI,Delhi Belly,ZNMD etc are perfect "urban entertainers" but definitely not "mass entertainers".
So why SSTG havnt been a mass entertainment ,,,,because as per ur defination it is a masala movie,,,,and what about BOSS , Policegiri, Zangeer , Mumbai Mirror , Jayanta Bhai Ki luv story , Zila Gaziabad , Shortcut Romeo , Phata Poster Nikla Hero , Yamala Pagla Dewana 2 , Besharam , these all are masala movies,,,but havnt performed well in boxoffice.....Definatly are not mass entertainment,,,,...
And let me tell u ,,, this list may go on,,,,these are just the movies of this year....
Just because a movie has the essential ingredients of a mass entertainer does not mean its a Hit by default. Its obviously gotta be liked by its target audience in order to be a success and in case of the films u mentioned,they haven't been liked by the audiences unlike Ghajini,Dabangg,Singham,Agneepath etc. Isn't it obvious? Its like saying that every particular brand of ice cream has got to be delicious only because its an ice cream regardless of taste and flavour! As always,you do not make sense.
Apt review, Meetu. Surprising that such a movie engenders so much bickering from two of your 'top commenters'! I suppose, we are living in rather intolerant times.
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